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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: 'Blue' foxes Reply with quote


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This link takes you to a photograph of two arctic foxes. Everyone knows that most arctic foxes become a much darker color in the summer but now there is something wrong about this picture eh? It's still a black arctic fox but it's in the winter.

Black arctic foxes are called blue foxes 'cause if you look closely, most of the black arctic foxes are a very dark shade of blue. They are arctic foxes but just a different color like the silver foxes who are the same as red foxes.
Blue foxes generally stay the same color throughout the year though, like this fox was photographed in the summer:


Though those are called "dark blue" arctic foxes, some are not as dark like this one:

With a bit of color of light blue.

Gestation: 53 days
Litter size: 5-10
Age at sexual maturity:
Male: 10 months
Female: 10 months
Life Span: 5-7 years

Shoulder Height:
25-30 cm (10-12 in)
Head and Body Length:
53-55 cm (21-22 in)
Tail Length:
30-31 cm (12 in)
Weight:
3.2-4 kg (7-9 lb)
The blue color morph comprises less than 1% of the continental population, but are more common in western Alaska and on islands.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is so cool, I never knew that there was such a thing. I think that they are beautiful though. I love that smokey blue look, or at least that's what it looks like to me is smokey blue. Either way I love the pics White. I think I may be starting to change my favorite animal to a fox now instead of a wolf, not sure though.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I just learned of this myself (all the more points for this forum for being educational). Foxes do have a lot of stuff about them that most people don't know, but since I know them, I know which is my favorite animal.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL... I know just what you mean White.

I thought blue foxes? wow.. I also thought they would be a light blue... I have seen some white ones that looked like a light blue but I think it was just the snow and ice around it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's sad that blue foxes are less than one percent of the arctic fox population but they still are not protected by any hunting or trapping laws. You think such a rare thing should be protected.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thery aren't protected?!?!?!?!?! Why not? That makes no sense, I mean they are rare, and aren't artic foxes endangered anyways? ...... I think they are anyways, in any case, they should still be procted, they are such a beautiful animal, very pretty.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That just reminded me of what one fox hunter said "what about cows, chickens, pigs?" something, some more bull crap and . . . "so ban fox hunting because they're cute; not until you worry about those other animals then you're just a hyprocrit."

That seems to be most human thoughts "not until you do this then you're a hyprocrit." Even back in the revolutionary war, the british goverment said that until america has a goverment, then they will continue to tax their goods. Typical.

Anyway, arctic fox's are not endangers; basically all the main speices of the foxes are not endangered because they are God's work and masterpeices of nature, their numbers are not effected. And to the best of my knowledge, since blue foxes are the same as arctic foxes, they are not protected.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheWhiteFox wrote:
Anyway, arctic fox's are not endangers; basically all the main speices of the foxes are not endangered because they are God's work and masterpeices of nature, their numbers are not effected. And to the best of my knowledge, since blue foxes are the same as arctic foxes, they are not protected.


I don't think I could of said it better myself.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheWhiteFox wrote:
It's sad that blue foxes are less than one percent of the arctic fox population but they still are not protected by any hunting or trapping laws. You think such a rare thing should be protected.

Hmm, that is odd, you would think something like that would be protected

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll agree on that, you would think that something that rare would be protected, I mean they are so beautiful and they are different from normal arctic foxes, and since they are less than 1% of the arctic fox population then you would think that they would do something to protect something that is that rare.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

only a species would be protected and the blues are the same species. That would be like protecting blue doe from hunts. A blue doe is rare like that, not blue in color but so named cuz the doe has antlers and basicaly a hermaphrodite so couldn't usualy breed anyway. But there's other examples like white black bears.

I knew the term blue fox because that's what the fur farms call their artics. A study done on taurine deficiency on foxes was done on reds and blues. And mentioned somewhere of them trying to cross blues and reds but it doesn't really work. So knew blue was arctic but didn't know it was a special type.

I wonder then if the fur farm blue is really the blue fox farmed for that trait and not just an artic. Probably like with the silver fox.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fox being 'blue' sounds to me like a genetic deformity, similar to albinism, but that is just what I conclude from what is given on this page. I hadn't heard of them before.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentic deformity? Nah, foxes are just very unique in which they can be many different colors and just different. Who knows why they are different colors? They are just unique.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hikage Okami wrote:
A fox being 'blue' sounds to me like a genetic deformity, similar to albinism, but that is just what I conclude from what is given on this page. I hadn't heard of them before.

Deformity?.. that kinda makes it sound as if the color was the problem.
I have red hair,.... it that a deformity?... Very Happy.. lol.. j/k.. anyway I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think it would be a deformity just cause of the color... perhaps someday research will tell us more.. but till then I am content to think its a rare color.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's called a color mutation doesn't really make them mutants like people think of the term really just means a change of color from the norm.

and it's been studied just like color in dogs. People know what colors to breed to what to get what color if it's a dormant or rececive gean ect.

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and there's this one but there's fur pics the second half is foxes and mentions blues

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Really it's just a mutation a randome difference like a bird with a larger beak than normal then say there's a fire and only seeds can be found are hard the bird with the bigger beek will survie better being able to crack those seeds and pass it's geans on.

If global warming continues and there's less snow the blue foxes might be the ones to survive better.

It's called genetic diversity and mother nature's way of helping with species survival. but science calls it a mutation.
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