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LoneWolf
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:54 am    Post subject: roadrunner killer Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, it looks like a mix breed of wolf, coyote and jackal Very Happy Great shot!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LoneWolf.. what made you call it roadrunner killer?...
oh.. n/m.. *shakes head*... its a coyote? I thought it was a wolf.. *I feel dumb*.. well anyway its a great shot.. who woundn't like to get a shot like that?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's another great shot. the background is spactacular! Smile

yes...it does look like a wolf...well, that's what i thought anyway.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me it looks like some sort of Wolf mix, like maybe part Cyotee (sp?) as well....that's just me though, the face reminds me of a cyotee and the body of a wolf.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's a coyote..just like in the roadrunner cartoons
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always loved that cartoon... .... meep .... meeep!
Though I don't think he ever got that bird. lol....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol.
No I dont think he ever did get the bird. It reminds me of an old comic book cald Calvin and Hobbes. In one of the comic strips you see Calvin (a six year old kid) in front of a tv and he is saying,
idiots, explosives and falling anvils, THAT is what entertainment is all about.
Anyway nice picture.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just a coyote in his winter coat. Wolves have much broader chests and heads and very long, thick legs. The biggest wolves are about three times as tall as coyotes. Shocked

Grey wolves do NOT breed with coyotes. This is just a myth. Red wolves crossbreed with coyotes sometimes, but they're much more closely related.

I recently added a scale drawing to the page below which shows the fox's size compared to some common dogs. On the same scale, the coyote is very similar to the border collie. A big grey wolf would be taller than anything on this, except the human of course


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm...... I didn' know exactly how big coyotes where and I thought they would be alot bigger than a fox.. looks like they are just a bit bigger. Thanks for telling us about the scale.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Sittingfox is right. I have no idea how I thought that that was a wolf, except probably the color Sad Anyway, wolves are huge, most people (that I speak to) think that they are no bigger than a medium sized dog.
I was going to post this same basic post but I thought I might as well do it now.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coyotes do vary a bit - they're larger in the east because they've crossbred with eastern wolves. According to my guide, they stand about 23in - 26in at the shoulder. A border collie is 21in; so it's a little smaller, but it's the closest on that graphic to a coyote.

Just to clarify, wolves vary in height also, with the Mexican wolf subspecies being very small; and the mountain wolves I'm familiar with being absolutely enormous. The scientific world is in the middle of a debate over whether the rather small "wolves" of the Middle East are actually a seperate species, so I won't drag them into it.

Don't feel bad. Yellowstone is full of tourists looking at coyotes and thinking that they're watching wild wolves Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that's probably true. I really don't know why that was part wolf, probably it was just the color that threw me off. But I live in the destertous westeren areas and the coyotes I seen are small and have a more tannish color of coat.

Wolves in yellowstone are a pretty good size too so I'm sure that most of us here would be able to identify them from coyotes (plus another few dozen different charactics) but that's funny to know how people think that they are looking at wolves.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, sorry for the confusing terminology. When I say "eastern wolf" I mean Canis lycaon (otherwise known as Canis rufus) that is, the red wolf. A separate species from the familiar grey or timber wolf.

And the Middle Eastern wolves I mentioned are those in Iran and Oman etc., not the eastern seaboard of the US!

I agree that most people would be able to tell the difference between western coyotes and grey wolves given a proper chance, but, when out in the field, a lot of tourists seem to let their dreams do the talking! However, once a grey wolf has been seen in the wild, it's very difficult to ever mistake a coyote for one ever again. The difference is too obvious then.

Also, genuine wolves are often seen at great distances, perhaps a mile or more away. If you want to see wolves without harming them, the best thing is to buy a spotting scope or very powerful birdwatching binoculars. Ditto grizzlies, also preferably seen at a distance. I saw a grizzly on my last trip to Alberta that was a good 4km away. Surprised (Well, okay, I scanned the mountainside with my scope until I saw it - it was invisible to the naked eye)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, easteren wolf; I didn't know that they were red wolves. Well, I learned something new today

I agree that once someone sees a wolf they wouldn't so lightly confuse a coyote with a wolf again. I think that most people do not realize how big wolves are so when they see a good sized coyote, they think it's a wolf.
Probably some scope on a camera to see the wolves from afar
But all in good times, after high school, we'll see where I go.

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